Ashley Creegan
04:55:47 PM
Hi Ladies! I can see and hear you!
She's there, yeah, she's I think she's watching Ashley are you on can you type if you're on?
Amazing is the volume OK.
Ashley Creegan
04:55:56 PM
Yup sounds good!
OK, perfect. Thank you so do we have a format for this.
Because I've been on these but I've been on the other end where like people are queuing up questions in be at you as we talk or are we letting people ask questions with twenty one people in this yeah. I was gonna have us talk about our returns. Then you talk about like I got free law and then they say like if you have any questions like please with the men like I guess as we go along like tell them they can have questions and I put it in the chat so we can like go back, yeah, So what I would say is that you need to decide.
Open Maps and sensitive set the format and just say reach Gonna speak really briefly were really interested in your questions Anne.
Put them up as we go and will answer them all, I'm going to get a piece of paper.
Ashley Creegan
04:57:17 PM
You guys are muted now.
Ashley Creegan
04:57:58 PM
All good! :)
Hi everyone, uh we're just going to give us a few more minutes to let more people get on. Um so far. We have 7 guests were waiting on a couple more people so let's give it about 5 minutes. But for now. I'm going to put you on mute uhm and will be back in like 5.
OK, um, so while we're waiting a do people who have joined so far want to type in the chat bar their name where they're from their major so far, whether intending to do.
This is set up so that they can speak or they can.
John DeSoto
05:01:42 PM
John DeSoto International Relations major
wait is the cameras, everything, yeah, there's a Camera and audio.
Alec Mettin
05:01:43 PM
I'm Alec from Doylestown, Pa. I am planning tom major in International Relations.
Erin Robbins
05:01:59 PM
Hi! I'm Erin from Collegeville, PA and I was admitted to political science
Wow, OK, Hi John, hi are major possibly.
Rj Hall
05:02:24 PM
Reilly Hall from Absecon, NJ. I plan on majoring political science but I want to pursue pre law
For those people who are getting on late we're just asking people to put a line in the chat about where you're from, and what you're thinking about studying at Saint Joes.
Hi I'm Christine to Santee. I'm I'm a junior political science major here at Saint Joes.
I'm Katie Green, I am a junior here and I'm an international relations major.
An I'm Susan Lee Bo I teach political science and I'm also the faculty pre law advisor.
Uh so the way this is going to go tonight for the next hour. We're going to be kind of introducing ourselves talking about our experiences within our majors kind of the opportunities. We've had the course is we've taken why we were so drawn to these departments in our majors and then definitely Bell here is going to take over and talk more about free law and kind of fill in the gaps of anything that we missed. She's both of our advisors so she's an expert on everything here. It's a Jezebel Poli Sci and I are.
Emma Kunz
05:03:38 PM
Hi I’m Emma! I am considering the pre-law track but am still undecided :)
And at any point that you have a question just throw up the question, we're going to answer all of your questions and you put but we realize that as people are talking. You sometimes think about something just put it up. We can see them come up will either answer it.
As it comes or will answer it a little bit later, but either way. We're going to get to anything that you want to ask and I just want to say that no question is too small or too large an if you've got a question believe me other people have it to an.
All three of us know how little everyone knows before they step on to a campus.
Just ask it's easy were were were nice.
OK, so I can start like I said, I'm a political science major here at Saint Joes and how I kind of got on that track was that I'd always been interested in the news. I always liked reading about politics and knowing a lot about politics. My dad was really interested in it in high school, but I actually came in as a communication major but now I forgot, Yeah, but then my second semester. My dad actually was like you should take a political science class. It will be really good like I know you really like it. So I ended up taking my political science class my second semester freshman year.
Jessie Mitich
05:05:37 PM
Hi I'm Jessie from Allentown, PA and I will be majoring in political science and plan to be on the pre-law track
And I was just immediately drawn to the classes and the Department as a whole. So basically then beginning of my sophomore year. I switched my major over to political science and I have not regretted that decision and I've loved the major ever since I've.
Been really lucky I feel like this is a great Department because they offer a lot of different opportunities that go outside of the classroom through the major I was able to join a club on campus, which is called women's leadership initiative. It's a club that focuses on social justice, but also professional development for women and so through political science office. I learned about that club and was able to join the executive board and I'm now on the communications team for that, so that.
Organization works really closely with Angels and feminism or business, or professional development or anything like that is, of interest to you. I recommend checking it out when you get here. It's awesome. But I also have been able to do 2 internships through the Political Science Department. The first one, I completed my second semester sophomore year. They offered this to a bunch of students in the political science international international relations majors and it's called a global smart, so basically.
You work through the World Affairs Council of Philadelphia and you go into classrooms for different middle schools across Philadelphia and you basically keep them about the United Nations and help them prepare for a model UN event. They have at the end of the year so that's a semester long internship and it was really great 'cause I got to learn a lot about the United Nations myself and what their goals were an also went a lot about model. You want in general and well also getting to teach a little bit and just generally expand my worldview and they offered events and it was great.
And then this all I also actually travel to Washington DC Thursday. Jose 7 relationship with an organization called the Washington Center, where they send students down to Washington DC, and you complete the internship so I was able to go to DC for the whole semester and to intern basically a 9:00 to 5:00 everyday I worked at a non-profit organization that was focused for advocating for different for Macedonia. People actually it was really it was an awesome internship. I got to go to Congress.
Times I met some congresspeople. I went to a few key rings and it was overall. Just a really great internship and it was a great program to it was just awesome. Getting to live in DC for a semester was definitely one of like the highlights of my St joes, freer uhm. So yeah, that's why political science experience.
OK, like I said, my name is Katie. I'm in an Oster Relations. Major uhm and the way that I decided on coming to Saint Joe steps in becoming an IR major which is international relations is short and I did debate for 2 years in high school and then my last 2 years in high school I started doing model UN that experience kind of really shaped my understanding of politics like I was always really passionate politics by Mom's political science major herself so that was always a really big important thing in my family.
Discussing politics and current events, but the model UN kind of helped me realize that I like like playing. That decision making part and kind of doing that process. And so that really helped develop my passion for international governance. Human rights issues. A lot of current events, so until I decide on international relations with Saint Joseph's, I attended an open house session.
Where I gotta meet with the head of the political science Department doctor Scola. She was really kind. She told me about all the amazing opportunities that Poli Sci Department and then the then the IR major offer so that was also really important in my decision, but upon arriving at Saint Joseph's instantly. Patel that the faculty here just amazing. They really care about their students well being my professor. One of my first international relations courses. She emailed us. The day after and said that if we had any questions or any concerns like.
You please come to her. She really wanted to make sure that we felt comfortable and felt like we were at a good pace in our classrooms, which is really important in kind of helping me feel really comfortable with the international relations program and with the Political Science Department. So a few of the things that I got involved in through the International Relations Program, I was also in the global sports program so that was just really great chance to get back in the model UN and serve middle school students throughout Philadelphia.
I really just try to go back to the community and use everything that I was learning in my own classrooms to give back to the kids that we were teaching and we were showing them like how to do model UN why it's important to understand current events around the world and how we're all interconnected so that was a really special experience for me that I had at Saint Joseph's, and then last semester. I was also off campus. I was studying abroad in Belgium, an I had an internship with the European Union. So 3 days a week. I would go into the European Parliament, which is one of the.
Their bodies of the European Union and I was matched with a member of Parliament from uh from the Czech Republic. An I was writing speeches with her doing research. I gotta go to a lot of meetings. I did a lot of work on agriculture, which was something that I'm nothing about and I really had no interest in agriculture, but it was a really important issue with the European Union and so that was really cool to see like what really is important in all these different countries and how they come together and discuss something that they have in common like their agricultural interests.
Is everyone has taken that so it was really cool to be a part of that and I got to see her like speaks of my speech is that some of the bigger meetings at the European Union so that was really cool to have been a part of that. I really just get that experience of what international governance. Looks like plus being abroad is just an amazing experience and big in DC like being having the chance to get away from campus for a semester and getting some professional experience is really important, and developing your major and what your interests are so those are great experiences that.
Really are really unique to Saint Joseph's, and the faculty really encourage a lot of the students to do those programs in develop those skills and hone in Warren to their interests within their majors, so that was really cool chance and then starting my sophomore year. I started doing research for one of my professors and I'm planning on going to grad school after I graduate so having that research experience is really important, and going to grad school, but also it's really important to have research skills in anything you do, especially these different majors.
That we are, and so that's been really great transfer me to kind of develop my own research skills and get that experience and it's really helped me I think in my classes and also just kind of understanding what to expect from my own major future careers that are more research based.
But so before we talk about pre law and you know how to faculty see it does anybody have some questions for any about anything that either Christine or Katie had just I don't know it's odd we can't see you.
So you can hear us we can't see you but if there's anything on your mind throw it up on the chat an will talk about it before we move on to.
And then let me just throw a lot at you.
John DeSoto
05:12:44 PM
how did you get connected with the internship with the EU?
Erin Robbins
05:13:07 PM
Is there any overlap between political science and IR programs/is it difficult to dual major across programs?
Alec Mettin
05:13:17 PM
How did you find those internships and how many students are generally involved in internships or study abroad opportunities?
Hum the things I think are distinctive about the Department or some of Watt.
Now people are typing or thinking you know, I'll just say that I think what defines our Department on what makes it special first of all. I just want to say to all of you. I know that you have acceptances at lots of interesting places. And though I'm from Saint Josephs. I'm a bit like the Santa Claus in miracle on 34th street. I think we should go. Where is a good fit for you and I'm really happy to sort of tell you the things that we have or don't have.
Just leaving Katy Perry talked about, we really try to pair academic peace with practical experience. An we tried to guide people so that they will get some sort of internship experience. Maybe they play a sport, so it's hard to go off campus for a semester or so they can do a 10 hour week internship that's just the class so instead of having 5 classes.
That are all in the classroom 4 of them in the classroom and one of them is an internship. That's what global smarts is so anyone can do it no matter what their obligations.
John DeSoto
05:14:18 PM
3 days a week at the EU. Did you go to class the other 2 days? or work somewhere else?
And I'll tell a story, which is that we had a student who did the Washington Center and she was working for Senator Joe Biden, who was that point was just a senator from Delaware and but it happened to be the year that Obama asked Biden to run an Jill and Jill then went to the White House and Jill and went to Google and Jill just has a bachelors degree from the Department, but that experience in DC?
Made her really desirable and we really try to pair. Everybody not everybody go to White House, but really try to pair people up.
Alec Mettin
05:15:03 PM
Are internships able to count towards credit for graduation?
The second thing I think really defines the Department is the care that we try to take with advising you stick with the same advisor for 4 years unless you don't like the person or you don't gel with the person, which happens so that you're not bounced around and that you get can do this kind of planning you were a transfer student. So it's a little bit different so you did, have different but, hopefully once you find a home you get taken care of and last with the class size is small and so we all get to know each other well.
We're going to take some of your questions now.
Aaron asked if there's an overlap between political science and I are wow. That's a great question. An is it difficult to have 2 majors, so let's start with that.
OK do you want me to answer it?
Um so as an international relations major, the weight of the major works is that it's an interesting listen. Airy program so you take political science courses history courses and then economic courses. So you have like a certain number of upper divisions in each major that you have to take like within each Department so I tend to focus more on the political science courses that through my interests lay more closely. But those courses, they are more international like.
You have a certain requirement of upper divisions. You have to take within at the course requirements to graduate.
And so for international relations, those upper divisions are more global based which makes sense because it's not really meant to be domestic but you can still take those classes at the interest to you. There's a lot of freedom there. But I also take more history classes by strong state really isn't economics, which I have found since coming to save those but you still have to get those classes to have more well, rounded education understand each aspect of like the international relations major but also within those upper divisions. You kind of shape your own interests and.
Feel that you want to study for example, I'm more interested in Africa. So I take a lot of like African history courses in the Department of my upper divisions and within that I've found that I'm really interested in like identity, politics and ethnic conflicts. So it would have find classes that have to deal with that and kind of shape my own field of study, which is really unique also does a lot of freedom, which I think is very unique as well in this program for political sides basically it's a little less work between.
A few different maybe space list and the political science track, but I know we take we take 2 history courses. an American History Course, an upper division history course. But I know better. High school so those can actually be satisfied by AP credits if you took any AP classes and got a 4 or 5 on the exam. But they also have to take micro or macro economics. Just one economics class where I think for international relations have to take macro microeconomics, and then an upper division, so international relations has a little more economics focus.
Basically, from there, we just take upper division political science courses. We have an internship requirement as well. And then a senior year capstone project. But like he was saying basically there's political science classes that are more international focused if that's what interests you. I know we have great professors who focus on like we have one doctor in the Department who books is a lot like South America and what happens down there, which is awesome, so it's kind of like you said I can tailor to what you're interested in which I think is great and you don't have to know so no.
John DeSoto
05:18:08 PM
Does IR major have a capstone project requirement?
And they heard this for me wait much you know your high school students and it's not necessarily exactly clear.
Yes, I'm on it has a capstone in the same way. Both of them have a capstone seminar at the end, so small room with a table and you know a project that is really focused something that.
Build on all of the other things that he did so when you you're in high school and you don't really know whether you like international relations or you like political science, but you don't have to all you need to do is come and you'll take some classes and they will be classes that will clarify this. Ann's in division to the class is your advisor will help clarify that because your advisor will say are you liking this American politics class and you will say.
Actually, no, I really like the class that is about Latin America and that might mean that you are more of an IR major but you don't need to know that these are 2. IR is different in that is a much more interdisciplinary major its political science mixed with economics and history.
Erin Robbins
05:19:32 PM
Which AP course credits transferred for your individual programs?
That's what it is could be more history less political science more econlit. It's your choice really wears political science is the classes within the Department, but you don't need to know any of that before.
OK, there's a couple of questions up here uhm.
Oh yeah, no, I broke down ones from before so Alec on the intern ships. So first of all. Yes, internships count for credit depending on how you do them so you could do a summer internship an it might not count for credit 'cause you didn't ask for it, but you can take uh do 10 hours a week during the summer at an internship and as long as it adds up to 120 hours and you've registered for it, you would get 3 Upper Division.
A political science or I or credit.
The second time you do an internship it counts as elective credit and we have slightly different rules for global smarts that always counts as either I or political science. But Yes, the intern ships definitely count of outlook. You also asked about study abroad. Lots of our students study abroad. Many of them do this EU program in Belgium, which Katie can answer questions about other people go all over the world this is.
Really up to you, we have a long list of programs and we work with you if you don't see the program.
That you like so uh Alec.
Think I answered your questions, but if I didn't.
Write something down and John had a question about the EU internship earlier so if you want to yeah, so it's yeah, your question was about the schedule of the EU so the way that they are doing the internship now is that it's a 3 month long program. The first two months. You have a four day week and then a three day weekend, which really naturally traveling but during those 4 days you're taking different courses, so you have 5 course to pick from.
You pick four like actual courses where you're in the classroom and then the 5th course counts as your internship what you do the last month of the program.
So those first two months, you're taking different courses that relate more to like European economics or politics and history is of course on the history of the EU comparative politics. That's really helping prepare you to go into the internship so you don't do anything about like the country that you might be working with or like what the EU is so like a lot of kids I know who went into that program. They had no idea what the you did so it took those history courses and that really helped them so you have some freedom in those classes that you take but then that last month.
You go to the EU 3 days a week and then the other two you have classes. They kind of shift officer classes or 2, 1/2 hours, which seems a little scary but you have a coffee break in between so it really make it easy for you. The faculty are amazing over there, but so that last month. You really getting into what you've learned and kind of having that hands-on experience and like applying everything that you've learned into the internship that like that real world situation. But yeah, hopefully that answered that question for you, Aaron had a question about.
John DeSoto
05:22:47 PM
yes thank you
AP so just about any AP course that you took that you got a 4 or 5 on is going to count somehow so if you took AP Econ that will account and it will get out of that requirement if you took AP Gov that will take you out of intro to American politics. I can answer questions on specific. AP courses and tell you what their equivalency would be so just put 'em up.
Alec Mettin
05:23:44 PM
Is there an additional placement test to get out of those?
We're happy to do it if you took AP English either langoor lit you will get out of one of the general education requirements. Now that's not in the political science Department, but because this is a Jesuit University and it has. This set of General Education requirements, philosophy theology, science, if you have taken AP bio. You may get out of some of these classes, so it put up the particular ones if I didn't.
No no no Alex no additional placement test which you do is you. Uh your score of 4 or 5 is sufficient for our advising center to assign you credit for having taken AP government. Therefore, your not put into intro to American government at all. There's very little for you to do and we're not a school. There are schools that fight over this we're not that's cool.
Alec Mettin
05:24:19 PM
Cool!
John DeSoto
05:24:40 PM
Will dual enrollment credits count for economics classes?
So again it worked pretty generous with assigning that and that can be really helpful because you never know if you have to drop a class or you're taking for really, really difficult classes in your senior year and also looking for a job and so it would like to just take the foreign that AP credit allows you to do it could be really helpful. I know specifically for political science in the 3 interdisciplinary classes. I talked about which is microeconomics.
I'm in Upper Division History, an American history. I know that if you got a 4 or 5 on AP American history. You are exempt from the American history class and if you took AP European history. I know for a fact that one also exempts you from the upper division history.
No next classes wouldn't John would even buy dual enrollment credits.
Ashley Creegan
05:25:20 PM
AP Credit Chart for SJU https://sites.sju.edu/casadvising/ap-credit-2020/
And then will answer that uhm. I do want to say earlier somebody asked about double majors.
Erin Robbins
05:25:38 PM
What were your class schedules/course requirements like your first year at Saint Joesph's?
So for that question added Kragen, who is one of our admissions counselor. She just put up are advising center website kind of talking about. AP credits at Saint Joseph's helpful answer anymore questions.
All right that's a really good question from so, so I'll just say about the double majors and minors. I know that right now. This is incredibly fashionable an and I'm old and so I have seen.
Different fashions in higher education so right now people are like I am in triple major 49ers Nana concentration.
John DeSoto
05:26:26 PM
Im taking a class in high school that also gives credit at a local community college. Business 101, Accounting 101, Entrepreneurship 101
Ashley Creegan
05:26:38 PM
Transfer Credit Policy including Duel Enrollment: https://www.sju.edu/admission/undergraduate/transfer-policy-agreements
What I would say about Saint Joseph's is if that's what you want we can do that? We certainly can and it's easy to double major as a political science major with English is easy to double major with history. It's easy to double major with just about anything I know a lot of times people are like what about political science and I are and what I would say is it's not clear that that's very helpful because those are 2 really similar things and you may want to branch out, but you can do.
John DeSoto
05:26:40 PM
will the credits transfer over?
OK, we gotta bunch of questions coming in, but let's answer errands question about what's it. Like the first year anile copied on this other?
Yeah, I could start uhm so freshman year for me anyways. People can kind of schedule. Their course loads differently, depending on what their major isn't whether they take more major classes first or take more of the general requirements first for what time I was communication. But I think the same applies for political science alot of your first year. I think will end up beat you taking your general courses. I know for my first year. I took my language requirement. I took my English requirement and then I took maybe.
I took forging the modern rubs it, which is our history requirement. I took our theology requirement in our philosophy requirement, which are like the core classes and then each semester. Freshman year first master and 2nd semester. I took 1 major class at the time so first article in communications class and then second semester. One communications not still but I also don't want political science class that was my outlier. I changed my major but that's what my schedule pretty much looked like was a lot of just core classes with a lot of other people.
There's a lot of other freshmen are in those classes, which is nice with the kind of eases you win and then you, also have to complete your freshman year seminar class, which they have a bunch of different options for that. So basically the requirement and you can choose from a range of different languages.
I loved it, I took a sociology course I can't remember I think it's social problems and change into social problems and change and that also can sometimes feel another requirement like for me specifically that with my social science requirement, but I love that cost a lot because I wouldn't have otherwise taken a sociology class, I think an honestly that kind of open me up more to turn into political science because it talked about things. We talked about Philadelphia talked about race gender. A lot of different topics that you see coming up in political science classes with.
Classes, which kind of led me more to be like, I wanna take another social science class. But in that case, it was Katie? What did you take? Is your question so my freshman year seminar was a service learning course. We should talk about that? Good idea, so the way that Service Learning Works is that?
It's like you're enrolled in this course for one year, but then it's like 2 different courses in one is the way I can explain it, so the first master my freshman year. I was taking a philosophy course. This self and selflessness. It was really deep delving philosophy. I'm kind of like your own identity, which is really interesting and then my second semester was the philosophy once before class that everyone is required to take for one of the core courses. So I was able to get out of that requirement. I got that done second semester freshman year but.
Today's Service Learning Works is that once a week. I would go to downtown Philadelphia and work at product home would have changed.
Which is really important organization here at Saint Joseph so we have like really close personal ties to it but for a few hours in the week. I would go there. I'd be working with homeless woman in Philadelphia, who have mental disabilities, so that was a really like humbling experience for me, I would the public school in my whole life so a lot of people that I know who were coming into Saint Joseph's were like from private schools. Catholic schools, so they've been doing like a lot of service, there at high school, but I've never had it that experience knowledge really important for me.
Coming into Saint Joseph's, I wanted to do more service kind of gets another, people in Philadelphia, more if you're there stories understand where I was going into like where I would be living in the community that was around me, so service learning was a great chance for me to actually do that and give back to the community well being at Saint Joseph's, but yeah, if you're interested in service any like social justice issues. That's also something that political science really encourages is going after like major social justice issues, like immigration.
Food security like racial equality.
Million uhm, but so I was like that was really unique also for me at Saint Joseph's, having that course that I had the chance that had the freedom to go serve my community, but also like get some partial payments out of the way so just a different way to have that first year seminar and I teach the first year seminar. It's one of my favorite classes. I had neither one of you think about the freshman seminar and I know some of the other schools. You're looking at have them as well. Is it's a small class. It's intended to help you bridge from high school where.
You are in school all day and you have no freedom and then you leave and you go home and you do some work at home. Where is college is really different you have very little time in class and then you have all of this time that is up to you to manage to do your work or to engage in activities. That's a huge change and so the freshman seminar is designed to say what if we had a really small class? What if you got to know one of your teachers well and what it.
It was their job to introduce you to college again not sacrificing the content, but reminding you of some of the things that are different here about how to use the library. My classes on the Supreme Court and student liberties. The thing that we do is uh 2 weeks. Simulation of the Supreme Court. We dress in robes argue before his Supreme Court. It's the thing that people will both.
Erin Robbins
05:32:25 PM
How does the political science program/pre law track prepare students for law school?
Dread because of the kind of nervousness of work, but then also are most enthusiastic about and some of the freshmen. Seminars also have more of this like.
You know simulation something a little different. I think service learning, also gets you to try to connect what is happening like classroom elsewhere?
OK Aaron has to question about law school so I think it was this would be a really good time for me to do you have anything else wanted to say about?
Cool, things about our pre law programs here, so most pre law.
In our pre law programming is unique and among the very best that you can get anywhere, and you don't know me but I'm very, very candid and I will tell you if it wasn't uh? What makes our program. Distinct is a couple of things 1st. It's an endowed program. We have a million dollar endowment and that means there is an enormous amount of money each year that is spent on our students. We provide for example, subsidized LS 80.
Horses on campus, we pay half you pay half Stanley Kaplan as well as you know something, you did, as 80 prep. You know how expensive it is so instead of paying the $1100 you're paying part of it and Saint Joes is playing part of it. We pay half but if you need us to pay full.
Because of your circumstances, we pay full.
Another thing that's unique about the pre law program is that most places have either a faculty member doing it or career development doing it. We have a team of myself an most found fabulous colleague, Christine Falcone from career development and together we bring you the kind of expertise that I have about writing an about what kind of skills. You need for law school and she brings the Carreira counseling. How do you have the perfect resume?
How do you pick a fantastic list of schools we have events constantly we offer students just about anything that they want we offer internship awards so if you do a law or justice related internship. We will pay up to $350.00 as a kind of a grant that will cover everything but will take the edge off of it.
If you want to go on a trip because you read about something that is interesting and it's a student conference. But it has $400 registration fee, and you need to get to Virginia. We will pay for that we are regularly scheduled trips.
We have speakers on campus.
It just about anything and we take very good care of you when it comes time for the application process.
I feel you have asked or use the term of pre law track or you know like said, like that's what you want to do.
Do an in thinking about it as a major and minor so I'll just say that no matter which college you go to, if they say that they have a pre law. Major you should not go there. the American Bar Association says that you shouldn't go there. An all the law schools. They shouldn't go there, so don't go there come here because we don't have that what we do because what law schools want is they want passion and depth and breath. But they don't care what you study at all, so don't be a political science major.
And now I have to take off my political science hat and put on my prima. Het don't be a political science major, if you want to go to law school. You should be anything. You could be a chemistry major or history major or an accounting major and the law schools will. Love you because they don't care what you studied what they care about is that you grabbed on to something you were really interested in it, and you gave it your all and they care that you walk away with some skills.
Ability to read really difficult task.
Ability to write extremely well ability to manage your time, some sort of content information about basics about blah about American history so.
There's no nothing you need to do, if you want to go to law school what you do is you come to Saint Josephs. You come say hi to me when you get on to campus. We have a freshman orientation program for you this fall and we will have another one in the spring. It will have another one, when your sophomore is an we will constantly check in with you.
You could decide as a senior. Hey, I actually want to go to law school and there would be nothing. You should have done along the way in terms of what classes that you that you take but you know since errands asked like political science is a very like we should probably be clear, there are easier majors for you to take it. Saint Joseph so, so this is a really caring Department. It's a really I think.
Personal Department I mean, you both haven't been in my class for some time. But I see you and I know what you're up to from the other faculty and.
But it's not the easiest major so that's a good thing for law school because law school is looking to find out you know can you write? Well, you will learn how to write here? We do a lot of writing in this Department an if you're in another Department. You might you might do blast. So it certainly is a Department both IR in political science will prepare you well but so will lots of other majors and I will help you choose classes and walk you through all of it and the last thing I want to mention before I'll take other questions that you have on pre law.
Is we also have a very special program called lead legal education advancing diversity for students of color. This is a blow. We just had a ladybug land on computer, which is good luck no no.
That's very important to never, ever kill Ladybugs.
He spoke with no no it's right there.
Legal education advancing diversity is for students of color. It is only open to next year will only be open to freshmen and sophomore's an if you're interested in lead.
Wow, OK, you need to other peoples computers is.
Kathleen Green
05:39:26 PM
sliebell@sju.edu
Yeah, not as silly as I've lived here.
John DeSoto
05:39:28 PM
thank you for the link about dual enrollment
Just shoot me an email with any questions that you have about pre law and.
On any questions, you have about lead again another thing that we do. Actually, I'll mention one more thing, which is that we have dinners every month for free so you go over to our local restaurant here, which is across the street and we have three law alumni who come to eat dinner with you one person will be a current law student, a 2L at temple or a pen or whoever and then two people who are already out of Law School, an practicing law and the three of them will sit with you and answer any questions, you have.
Students love these dinners, the alumni love. These dinners, I can order anything. You want so people also like that. They get really nice meal and that's all paid for by our endowment an that allows you to hear like well. What is it like to be a whistleblower lawyer? What is it like to be a public defender so we really like? How much are alumni is involved with our students and how giving they are up there.
You have any questions put him up about pre wall or anything else.
And or feel free to email me another time.
Erin Robbins
05:40:47 PM
Thank you!
So I think that there is an important point there, um about like every year haven't like orientation for pre law. So I remember my freshman year. I just remembered this. But there was like an orientation session for IR. Poly size students did you go to that?
OK so that would like all the professors with yeah, they were all standing in the back. We all were walking and were like Oh my gosh. There's the faculty that we were all so nervous and like we don't know each other. But then there was a group of upperclassmen who stood at the front of the classroom and they share their experiences like everything that they've done within the program kind of like.
It was so impressive there were so many people who had done so many amazing things. It was so intimidating up. No one of those people. Yeah, no, I like the Department will talk about we'll look at another school who is the head of our department for like Oh just talking like this person and this person. I'm like there's so much going on here and everyone knows about what's happening within the Department 'cause. We're so small but it was really cool to see first hand in here from students like the upperclassmen. Maybe my freshman year and like software now. If you had it like they were terrifying.
I was so scared of them, they were so smart and they've done so. Many things up. But then they also were so down to Earth because we're all just students here.
John DeSoto
05:42:10 PM
how many students are in the IR major? In the police sci major?
And we're all trying to figure out our lives together in college but they had like a mentoring program through the IR Honor Society, where old freshmen were paired with upperclassmen and they were like if you need anything. Please kind of lost with get coffee. We can just I talk about my experience so I became friends with a good amount of upperclassmen who are now graduated and I've replaced love, but they are always there for each other and I think that's really special apartment and I think that you're playing Poly size that.
Jessie Mitich
05:42:35 PM
Are there common law schools SJU students attend? If so, which ones?
We're all pushing each other to do our best, with intercourse is an the upperclassmen is one of see you succeed and then it kind of like passed down different opportunities like my research that I'm doing for our professor Doctor Scola. She had someone else doing that for her and it's kind of like passed it down to me like that on his past, which was intimidating as a sophomore. I didn't know what I was doing and never done research. At that level before, but now I feel like an expert which is something so weird to say, but
no yeah, I always tell people that like IR and Poly size like a family and that was really important for me coming into a University and kind of having not support system from my professors and from other students in the classroom who like they would be like Oh are you a freshman I can chat when you're like. Yes, I would like let me point you like the best or faster is the best classes like? What are your interests? What do you want to get involved with and they would always lookout for you? Which always recommends a lot for me in this Department so.
That's why I love focal science. I think it's like the best and the professors really pushed you to do your best work and as we were saying, like the classes are not easy. My intro to global politics. Class I still say that's one of my hardest classes. I've taken in the IR Department. It was kind of intimidating doctor, yeah, so who she's an amazing professor. But they were like laughing. My professors 'cause. We get to know them. So quickly within our time here at Saint Joseph's, and they?
Kind of learn what our interests in are in an they kind of like find you really connect with you and try to make sure that you do the best that you can do, which I think also is great with like the summer Department, but the classes are hard, but they hold you accountable for your work and making sure that you succeed so I know it's also great and I do want to say.
I'm too admitted students day, yeah, I think it will give you the best sense of the University.
I have choose students in college right now and having visited lots of places and seeing lots of admitted students day is one of the things that's really unique about Saint Josephs is this supportive quality of the students and the faculty went the students aren't around say.
Make this happen because this is a very self, selecting group. People who are mean they don't come here. This is a very sort of.
It's not a mean slash edgy place. There is edginess in to the extent that people are concerned about the world and they think.
Critically about it, so they engage in disagreement, but there is not a snotty place.
Ryan Maher
05:45:55 PM
Can you speak to career opportunities that political science/IR might lead to
This is not a mean place and so this strange self, selecting quality is something that when you come to campus. You will either feel like Oh wow. I really love how nice everybody is to each other, or you know, or not. Maybe maybe maybe that's not what you're looking for but that supportiveness. I really, really think certainly helps me as a faculty member because I think you're right that the upperclassmen try very hard.
Say come let me tell you the like. Not we're not withholding the secrets to laugh at you when they're really trying to help you out.
And I think there are students are the best I think they're the most delightful wonderful. Smart interesting to teach people and I feel like it's a real privilege always to be with them.
OK, Errol Jessica had a question about law school and then Ryan has a question about careers. Those are really great questions so Jessica.
Many of our students are from this area and many of them wish to stay in this area and so the schools that they really like to add hand. Our temple because for Pennsylvania. Residents is very reasonable tuition, but also temple is the 2nd best litigation. Sorry.
Uh a prosecution public law type program in the country. The first one, is Baylor in Texas. So it's a Top school. It's well priced and it's in this area, so a lot of people try to go to temple and a lot of people go a either working today's office or they go into a private law. Drexel is a very small law school. A very personal law school and we find that a lot of our students.
Gravitate there and hard because Drexel often gives fold rides, though full scholarships to go to law school for free or half scholarships, so some students choose that kind of an option. Villanova also offers our students half and full-time scholarships. We have fewer students. Go to pen, but we have some students go to pen you know every other year.
Why do students go to ruckers their New Jersey residents and so the tuition for them is better there so I would say that all told, at least half of the people go to law school go to that set of Philadelphia Schools Temple Drexel. Villanova wreckers and pen. The other half kind of go anywhere. They want so some people are from California and I wanna go back to California and some people want to go to the best school, they possibly.
Can some people have like particular interest such that they want to go to law school that specializes in that and we work with each person.
Were highly successful I mean? I don't? I don't know it sounds bad. It's not like I'm bragging but our our students do really well, we make sure that everybody applies to a school that are each competitive and also a scholarship school so that you can choose at the end whether your coming out with a lot of student debt until you want to go to law school for free or you're really interested in civil rights law and you're not going to go out of money on that, so we recommend that you go to a school that has paid for you, rather than us.
Well, where you're gonna owe money for the rest of your life so we really try to work with you and what you want.
A LS 80, sometimes people don't take these ideas seriously.
Some of you may not have.
Something you do have to take seriously. We take it seriously, and that's why we have somebody come to campus to teach you here because we want to optimize your scores.
So that I can answer anything more about that but I think that's enough.
Do you want to come here this morning to talk to me or you know the seniors and what they're up to.
Um do you know what? do I know I know?
Looking to go to law school 2 years out, but that's about it. Yeah, I mean, it right now. I'm in like looking at grad programs so I'm working with a few different processors within the Department.
Who are hugging me prepare kind of for applications so I'm applying new a few years like grad international affairs programs. Get my Masters in international affairs political science and then I'm also started considering the PhD programs. And if I want to get a PhD right now in my life. So I'm trying to figure out like that part of my life would you still like it's kind of intimidating but?
I found like even now, considering like my options in the future after I graduated from Saint Joseph's, the faculty or like going out of their way to help me like to edit papers that I'm submitting the conferences or answering questions for me about grad programs and then also like telling you that you didn't come up with a list of deadlines and you just start letting ready for your application and I start thinking about what classes you need to take to prepare for your grad programs so that's something that's helpful, but then also creative Element Center.
Um they have stuff there that I now have helped students the past like they have weekly meetings about how you need to get your resume up and going like how you need to perfect that getting different interviews. How to get interview ready. So there's a lot of great resources out about connecting to the alumni different karere.
Networks that are related to IR Poli Sci, so those are great resources as well. But.
Our students do a lot of different things. Ryan so they come. They go into what you might expect so they go to law school. They get Masters in public policy. They go to work for government agencies, either in DC or in Harris Burgh, which is the capital, Pennsylvania, or in Trenton Capital, New Jersey or elsewhere. So some people do things that are quite connected to what they studied in terms of government. We have a lot of people go to law school.
We have a lot of people who use the writing skills and the research skills that they had to do things like work for Politico or to take a job at a PR firm that does more work for organizations that are connected to politics, and social justice. So you're a big PR firms that pay very nice salaries that are representing organizations.
That are you know, not for profits and so our students often work at for those kinds of PR firms and there is one owned by a Saint Joes alumna and so she.
And he think it's cold, they hire a lot of people. Many people end up working for the agency or the organization that they worked for in Washington, DC. Just today in my class. We were talking about this and both of the seniors who had done. the Washington Center both raise their hand and said I have a standing offer to come back and work there. It's very wide ranging companies actually don't care what your major is.
And I know maybe that's not welcome news. Or maybe it is, but but what they want is they want a certain kind of skilled workforce and because of the skills that you learned in political science and I are it's really pretty flexible.
Uh we have had people run for office. We have had people become schoolteachers. With that people go into the Marines. We have people working in the Defense Department. We have people working at Google, it. It's really a range and Katie did nice job of summarizing all of the opportunities. There's something new for you guys.
Which is that there will be a one credit or 0 credit? I can't remember class run just for you that will help you with making sure your resume is OK and starting to map out the kinds of things that you might do, yeah sorry. I know I know we improve things.
Yeah, sorry I mean might be doing it, so try to you later. And by the way the Ladybug is OK. Ladybug is outside of the building now.
Not yet it's not bothering even, but it's also it's going to lead a very long and happy life.
Do you have any other questions that we can answer?
No, I don't think I answered Johns question about how many students are in the major so it's funny. I say that it's like a really small major but then I'll be in Upper Division course with someone and they're like, Oh I'm and I are major and like Oh my God, like you have never seen before. In my entire life. So there are people who you have a lot of similar classes with like I know if you've been people who like your every single one of my art classes. I've known you since freshman year we've gone through this together, but then there's some other people who they might be like sophomores and I have it a force with them yet.
As I was gone last mustard so I've like never seen them in my upper division so I'm eating them but I don't know what specific number I do there we go sorry.
The longer I should now we have roughly 30 to 40 new major is coming in every semester, so roughly for both.
I armed political science, but just Full disclosure here, I told you I'm a little too. Candid like some years the IRS down but political science is up so it's a little unpredictable. What will happen your year so you're talking about about 120. One 140 political science or I'm sorry. Yeah, hundred twenty hundred and 60. IR an also political science majors. So yeah, it's enough for us to know you all but there is also.
In this odd way can just follow a different path. I'm seeing some people this mustard were seniors who have never taken my class.
Well, you're an IR major. Yes, everything I only thing right now is the one you should have been but that's OK will take care of that later.
Yeah is there anything else we can tell you and also, if you have any questions about not the major but what it's like to be on this campus social part, you know.
What student life is like you should definitely have? Yeah, I will not answer?
John DeSoto
05:56:57 PM
okay thank you for everything! i need to go, i appreciate the info.
Oppurtunity for you guys to ask like us right now like as current students kind of like just what life is like on campus or kind of what it's like to be a student here at Saint Josephs, like with the workload, maybe like hours outside of class were supposed to work on the courses or like maybe some struggles. You have kind of getting adjusted to score to the department's so you can just ask anything.
By John have a great night.
John DeSoto
05:57:04 PM
bye
Erin Robbins
05:57:11 PM
Are there any clubs/volunteer opportunities associated with your major?
OK, OK, John is nice enough to come to Saint Josephs.
Oh clubs and opportunities associated with a major from Aaron Yeah, definitely. I think I mentioned the one organization. I'm an earlier women's leadership initiative that is pretty heavily time with the political science major, I think everybody who is.
Alec Mettin
05:57:38 PM
Can you explain how housing works... like is it guaranteed for freshman and also are they mainly doubles? Just wondering :)
A member of the Executive Board of women's leadership initiative minus one person. Maybe I think is IR or political science, so that's really heavily associated with political science, but
there's a bunch of other clubs that kind of offer some similar thing, but overlap with political science, IR stuff. We have this college Democrats, Republicans. There's something called common grounds, which I think is awesome. This is also run by a political science major, which was which was an attempt to find out like well. What do Democrats and Republicans have in common after 2016 and how can we talk about it they run some really have you been?
It is really challenging I mean, they're not they're not like talking about like let's see if we all like butterflies. And so really nice. There's a pre law club. There are a variety of like you know a fair worker type subject clubs that are not necessarily associated just with political science.
Trying to find anything you want here and if you don't find it. You can make it up, though pretty long club came about because some freshmen wanted it.
And now it's doing right well. I think although Senate. I was in student Senate last semester. Yeah, I just like to win decided to apply for an at large position. So I was there for a semester before I went abroad and there's a lot of political science students in there who want to get like experience and it feels like it's student government. But like it's still kind of simple recover meant so that wasn't any experience for me. It wasn't my exact fit wasn't going to crowd of people.
Ryan Maher
05:59:18 PM
Do you know any student athletes within political science and how they balance their time.
Ashley Creegan
05:59:19 PM
All Freshmen are required to live on campus. Most students will be placed in a double. Some years we might have the option for freshmen to choose a single, but most students will share a room with one other person.
But I did learn why like valuable lessons kind of understanding what's going on. On campus and how the students involved in Senate kinda help shape like? What's happening on campus and how they can advocate for what they want to see on campus, which is really cool. Yeah, that was a lot of Poly Sci are people that I know who are involved in that.
And I'll just say one more thing about women's leadership uhm.
Alec Mettin
05:59:44 PM
Thanks, Ashley!
Warn women's leadership is something that makes this campus quite unique. It is dedicated to the idea that women should try to be in charge of all different kinds of things that they're involved with because they often take a back seat and women's leadership is about kind of taking a step forward. They run all sorts of events again from films to the Saturday. They had professional development day, which is a one day like workshop on.
A variety of things that you can do as you're thinking about the jobs.
OK, I see that Ashley gave the information to uh.
Uh how about about housing do you guys have anything else to say about first year housing? Did you live in a double? Yeah, yeah? I lived in exchange, which is a traditional style double?
Ashley Creegan
06:01:01 PM
Freshmen and sophomore year non-commuting students will live on campus. Freshmen can choose traditional or suite style housing, with a total of 4 resident halls. Housing selection will take place in July after orientation! You can choose a roommate or go into a random selection.
Like my first home from Home 'cause I'm from Kentucky. So I'm a little further away. So McShane was really great place for me. It is probably hungry and it kind of like is more Cody and I was in a residential learning community. So the whole floor. It was called. Emerging leaders so it's kind of a kid to developing your leadership skills so that was really great way to like network with some different speakers. We had come in also to do on your floor so those are equal opportunity, I lived in a Pelican.
It's very central campus as it accepts or from the dining Hall. All all freshman dorms are closed, but I think I was the closest so that was really exciting an just in general. If you're really nervous about housing. I know a lot of people meet their roommates through Facebook and everything like that, which is great. But if you're really nervous about going random or something. I won't random my freshman year and my roommate is one of my best friends still live together. Still, today, so housing can definitely. I know be super stressful, but also it sometimes can workout in the best way possible.
And I feel like I don't recommend anybody wanted to do that.
Alec Mettin
06:01:48 PM
Thank you!
Um we also have a question from Ryan about student athletes. We have a lot of student athletes and actually the woman that I told you about who went to go work for job and and then for Google was actually a student athlete who had a scholarship and uh the team that you played for it wasn't going to actually let her leave to go to the Washington Center but the political science Department has its ways. And we organized for her scholarship to continue while she went to.
Which worked out well for her with a lot of student athletes? I I mean? I see every possible team jacket in my class an what I would say is that first of all faculty are quite reasonable about missing for various kinds of meat.
We get notified through various portals that tell us that you're an athlete tell us that you have a meeting coming up and then you tell us I would say that the student athletes seem very organized they are not.
You know it's funny, you do more work right in more organizing in time management. That's for sure. But because athletics is also a stress relief what I notice is that the student athletes are doing pretty good.
Aren't really good shape? Not just physically but mentally an? I think that they do very well. I don't think there. There are majors, where it can be more difficult. But in general. There's a lot of flexibility about missing a class and political science. It's rare that one class would put you.
So totally behind, so I think it's a pretty good major for athletes and again all of our athletes really do they become really well organized?
Ryan Maher
06:03:44 PM
very helpful, thank you!
Right so I think some people are leaving a minute get 7 now, so but if you have any last minute questions. Just feel free to type amount sent it to us. I can be here for a few minutes just answer questions. Anyone has them do you want to thanks where I am?
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Alec Mettin
06:04:09 PM
Yes, thanks so much! This was super helpful
Jessie Mitich
06:04:12 PM
This was super helpful, thanks for everything
Kathleen Green
06:04:12 PM
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Emails in right now, um and just feel free to email us with anything.
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Kathleen Green
06:04:20 PM
kg675607@sju.edu
I have I'm sick right now, so I'm not doing great but?
Kathleen Green
06:04:27 PM
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Erin Robbins
06:04:37 PM
Thank you so much everyone :)
And also I would had missions so I might have talked with you. On the Phone during like when you get ram calls from missions, but I'll be working ASD so if you.
Talia Broems
06:04:50 PM
Thank you so much for you time.
If you have any questions and if you attend there just fine. Katie you know what I look like now. So yeah, and yeah. We're always here. If you had an admitted students day I'm going to do a special section on pre law. Come and talk to me email us with any questions. You have and you know really enjoy this you're into school and all of that anxiety is now going to be over and I know it's hard work applying to college. These days and was particularly hard this year, so congratulations on being accepted.
And, please, let us know like? What Yeah, but your questions or anything else that we can do would be happy to do it.
All right, thanks for coming right thank you. Everyone was great talking to you.
Ashley Creegan
06:06:04 PM
Nice work ladies! A follow up email will be sent with some contact information and links to programs!